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Posted on: May 6, 2008 11:19 am
Edited on: May 6, 2008 4:09 pm

SEC Football/Basketball Combined 07/08 Rank

I made this as an overall ranking for the 2007/08 season of football and basketball in the SEC.  The rankings use regular season and post season info for each school's team.  The rankings are my opinion but follow record pretty closely.  Please post your's if you would like, feel free to point anything out you don't agree with, thanks for checking it out. 

One question I have for you guys, should I add any other sports?  Oh and please reply to this, I think this could get some pretty good discussion.

Once more, THIS IS MY OPINION.


Football

1. LSU
- 12-2(6-2), Won SEC West, Won SEC Championship, Won National Championship, Final Ranking(AP #1, Coaches #1)
2. Tennessee - 9-4(6-2), Won SEC East, Won Outback Bowl, Final Ranking(AP #12, Coaches #12)
3. Georgia - 11-2(6-2), Won Sugar Bowl, Final Ranking(AP #2, Coaches #3)
4. Auburn - 9-4(5-3), Won Chick-Fil-A Bowl, Final Ranking(AP #15, Coaches #14)
5. Florida - 9-4(5-3), Lost Capital One Bowl, Final Ranking(AP #13, Coaches #15)
6. Arkansas - 8-5(4-4), Lost Cotton Bowl, Final Ranking(Unranked)
7. Mississippi State - 8-5(4-4), Won Autozone Liberty Bowl, Final Ranking(Unranked)
8. Alabama - 7-6(4-4), Won Petrosun Independence Bowl, Final Ranking(Unranked)
9. Kentucky - 8-5(3-5), Won Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl, Final Ranking(Unranked)
10. South Carolina - 6-6(3-5), No Bowl, Final Ranking(Unranked)
11. Vanderbilt - 5-7(2-6), No Bowl, Final Ranking(Unranked)
12. Mississippi - 3-9(0-8), No Bowl, Final Ranking(Unranked)

Basketball

1. Tennessee - 29-4(14-2), Won SEC East, Won SEC Regular Season Championship, 2 seed, Lost in Sweet 16, Final Rank(AP/Coaches #7)
2. Mississippi State - 22-10(12-4), Won SEC West, 8 seed, Lost in 2nd Round, Final Ranking(Unranked)
3. Georgia - 17-16(4-12), Won SEC Tournament, 14 seed, Lost in First Round, Final Ranking(Unranked)
4. Kentucky - 18-12(12-4), 11 seed, Lost in First Round, Final Ranking(Unranked)
5. Vanderbilt - 26-7(10-6), 4 seed, Lost in First Round, Final Ranking(AP #25, Coaches #25)
6. Arkansas - 22-11(9-7), 9 seed, Lost in 2nd Round, Final Ranking(Unranked)
7. Florida - 21-11(8-8), 2 seed(NIT), Lost in Semifinals, Final Ranking(Unranked)
8. Mississippi - 21-10(7-9), 2 seed(NIT), Lost in Semifinals, Final Ranking(Unranked)
9. LSU - 13-18(6-10), Final Ranking(Unranked)
10. Alabama - 17-16(5-11), Final Ranking(Unranked)
11. South Carolina - 14-18(5-11), Final Ranking(Unranked)
12. Auburn - 14-16(4-12), Final Ranking(Unranked)

Overall

1. LSU
(Football #1, Basketball #9, Average #5) - National Championship reigns above all
2. Tennessee(Football #2, Basketball #1, Average #1.5) - 1st place finish in basketball and 2nd in football, they would be first place if not for LSU's national championship
3. Georgia(Football #3, Basketball #3, Average #3) - Football has a NC caliber team next year, after this great year.  Alot will not agree with my ranking of Georgia in basketball but they did win the SEC Tourney, their name will always be remembered for that
4. Mississippi State(Football #7, Basketball #2, Average #4.5) - Had a good year in both sports, surprise for football and great thing to grown on
5. Florida(Football #5, Basketball #7, Average #6) - Florida, boy are they stacked for some more Championships, next year in football and the coming years in basketball, in my opinion Florida is one of the best if not the best athletics programs right now
6. Arkansas(Football #6, Basketball #6, Average #6) - Basketball looked good, football shone bright at moments under D-MAC
7. Kentucky(Football #9, Basketball #4, Average #6.5) - Surprise year for Kentucky football under Woodson and a bowl win against FSU, bad start for Kentucky basketball but they did well in conference and still made tourney, Gillispie should have the Cats playing good.
8. Auburn(Football #4, Basketball #12, Average #8) - Good year in football, bad year in basketball
9. Vanderbilt(Football #11, Basketball #5, Average #8) - Once again another good year for Vandy basketball, a decent year for football, a Vandy bowl appearance could be imminent
10. Alabama(Football #10, Basketball #8, Average #9) - Good start for Saban but slow finish, I expect good things from Alabama football in the coming years, basketball saw a year plagued with injuries so they should rebound
11. Mississippi(Football #12, Basketball #8, Average #10) - Not a good year in football with 0 conference wins, the basketball team performed great and should have future success
12. South Carolina(Football #11, Basketball #10, Average #10.5) - Rough year for South Carolina, I expect success to come under Spurrier.  Hopefully Odom's replacement can help fire this basketball team up


Thanks for reading this guys, please reply and let the discussion begin....

Posted on: February 5, 2008 4:16 pm
 

NCAA All-time Record for Three Pointers

There is an outside chance that Chris Lofton could break the alltime record for 3 pointers currently held by J.J. Redick.  The record is 457, Chris Lofton is 75 short with 382.  Chris probably could have been a lot closer if he would have been hitting the whole of the season but since the Kentucky game he is averaging 5 a game.  Lets take a look at the rest of the season and how many he would have to average per game.

Tennessee remaining guaranteed games (11 games)

February 5            Florida
February 9            at LSU
February 13          Arkansas
February 16          at Georgia
February 20          Auburn
February 23          at No. 1 Memphis
February 26          at No. 20 Vanderbilt
March 2                 Kentucky
March 5                 at No. 22 Florida
March 9                 South Carolina
March 13               SEC Tournament First Round/Second Round because #1 or #2 in East bye

I assume that Tennessee will win a few conference tourney games and will make it to at least the Sweet 16.  I will say Tennessee at the minimum makes it to Semifinals in the conference tourney and the Sweet 16 in the NCAA tourney.  That is 5/6 extra games in the postseason.  Which it is highly possible that Tennessee could do better in both or tourneys, or worse.  The point is Lofton has a decent shot at the record if he stays on the same pace.

Lofton would need to hit more than 5.5 threes a game average to break the record.  Good luck to Lofton, thanks for reading
Category: NCAAB
Posted on: February 1, 2008 11:23 am
 

The Best Combined Football and Basketball Program

This is all courtesy of Rivals.com

First up we are going to start with the formula:

FOOTBALL
Share of National Title = 10 points
Runner-up = 7 points*
Top 4 ranking = 5 points
No. 5-8 = 3 points
No. 9-16 = 2 points
Bowl win, outside top 16 = 1 point
Bowl loss, outside top 16 = 0.5 points

BASKETBALL
National Title
= 10 points
Runner-up = 7 points
Final Four = 5 points
Elite Eight = 3 points
Sweet 16 = 2 points
Round of 32 = 1 points
First-round loss (since 1979) = 0.5 points
* - In the pre-BCS era, the No. 2 team in the AP poll was awarded the 7 points. However, during the BCS era, the BCS title game loser was awarded 7 points.


The Top 25 since 1998

1. Florida (27.5 football, 33 basketball, 60.5 total points)

The buzz: Florida is the only team that has won national titles in both football and basketball during the BCS era.

2. Ohio State (41 football, 15.5 basketball, 56.5 total points)
The buzz: Ohio State won the 2002 national title in football and has reached a championship game three other times – 2006 and 2007 in football plus 2007 in basketball.

3. Oklahoma (36.5 football, 13 basketball, 49.5 total points)
The buzz: Oklahoma has won one national football championship (2000), has lost in the BCS title game two other times (2003 and 2004) and has reached a Final Four (2002) during the BCS era.

4. USC (43 football, 5.5 basketball, 48.5 total points)
The buzz: USC's recent basketball success under Tim Floyd allowed the Trojans to qualify for this list, though they didn't have enough basketball points to crack our rankings of the top programs since 1974.

5. Texas (29.5 football, 15.5 basketball, 45 total points)
The buzz: The Longhorns won the 2005 national football title and reached a Final Four in 2003.

6. LSU (34.5 football, 8 basketball, 42.5 total points)
The buzz: LSU has won two BCS national titles (2003 and '07) and got enough points from its 2006 Final Four run to qualify for this list.

7. Michigan State (5 football, 30.5 basketball, 35.5 total points)
The buzz: Michigan State's No. 7 finish in the 1999 AP football poll gave the Spartans enough football points to crack these rankings.

8. (tie) Tennessee (24.5 football, 6.5 basketball, 31 total points)
The buzz: Tennessee won the first BCS national title in 1998 and also earned enough basketball points to qualify because of the program's resurgence under Bruce Pearl.

8. (tie) Wisconsin (16.5 football, 14.5 basketball, 31 total points)
The buzz: Louisville was the only team on this list with a similar balance of football and basketball points.

10. Maryland (6.5 football, 22 basketball, 28.5 total points)
The buzz: The Terps won the 2002 NCAA Tournament and finished in the top 16 in the football rankings in 2001 and 2002.

11. Kansas (4.5 football, 23 baskeball, 27.5 total points)
The buzz
: Kansas' Cinderella run to the Orange Bowl title this year gave the Jayhawks enough football points to qualify for this list.

12. UCLA (7.5 football, 19 basketball, 26.5 total points)
The buzz: UCLA finished No. 8 in the AP football rankings in 1998, placed second in the 2006 NCAA Tournament and also reached the Final Four last season.

13. Arizona (5 football, 18.5 basketball, 23.5 total points)
The buzz: Arizona's fourth-place finish in the 1998 AP poll gave the Wildcats enough football points to qualify, even though they haven't earned a bowl bid since.

14. Oregon (14 football, 7 basketball, 21 total points)
The buzz: Oregon finished second in the nation in football in 2001 and made the regional finals of the 2002 and 2007 NCAA tournaments.

15. Syracuse (4 football, 16.5 basketball, 20.5 total points)
The buzz: The 2003 NCAA Tournament champions slipped into the rankings by achieving the minimum number of football points to qualify.

16. Auburn (15 football, 5 basketball, 20 total points)
The buzz: Auburn finished second in the AP football poll in 2004 and has reached the Sweet 16 twice (1999 and 2003) in the BCS era.

17. Louisville (10 football, 8.5 basketball, 18.5 total points)
The buzz
: Louisville capped the 2006 football season with an Orange Bowl title and reached the Final Four in 2005.

18. Alabama (11.5 football, 6 basketball, 17.5 total points)
The buzz: Alabama has finished 11th or better in the AP poll three times (1999, 2002 and 2005) and reached an NCAA Tournament regional final in 2004.

19. (tie) Oklahoma State (4 football, 13 basketball, 17 total points)
The buzz: The Cowboys reached the 2004 Final Four, advanced to a regional final in 2000 and earned just enough football points to qualify for the rankings.

19. (tie) Georgia Tech (8 football, 9 basketball, 17 total points)
The buzz: Georgia Tech finished second in the 2004 NCAA Tournament and has played in a bowl game each season since the BCS was introduced.

22. (tie) Boston College (9.5 football, 6.5 basketball 16 total points)
The buzz: The Eagles have earned eight consecutive bowl bids and have reached the NCAA Tournament six of the past seven seasons.

22. (tie) West Virginia (11 football, 5 basketball, 16 total points)
The buzz: The Mountaineers have earned three consecutive top-10 finishes in the AP football poll, reached a regional final in 2005 and advanced to the Sweet 16 in 2006.

24. Iowa (11 football, 4 basketball, 15 total points)
The buzz
: Iowa had three consecutive eighth-place finishes in the AP poll from 2002-04 and had just enough basketball points to make the list.

25. Purdue (7.5 football, 7 basketball, 14.5 total points)
The buzz: The Boilermakers reached the Sweet 16 in 1999, advanced to the regional finals in 2000 and have earned bowl bids during all but one season of the BCS era.

Other schools with enough points in each sport to qualify
Missouri (8 football, 6 basketball, 14 total points), Cincinnati (4.5 football, 7.5 basketball, 12 total points), Washington (7 football, 5 basketball, 12 total points), North Carolina State (6 football, 5.5 basketball, 11.5 total points), Texas Tech (7 football, 4 basketball, 11 total points), Notre Dame (6 football, 4.5 basketball, 10.5 total points).
Posted on: January 25, 2008 10:48 am